{"id":1021,"date":"2004-12-18T03:35:11","date_gmt":"2004-12-18T10:35:11","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.studioglyphic.com\/blog\/?p=1021"},"modified":"2004-12-18T03:35:11","modified_gmt":"2004-12-18T10:35:11","slug":"big-bet-poker-with-the-bloggers","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.studioglyphic.com\/blog\/2004\/12\/18\/big-bet-poker-with-the-bloggers\/","title":{"rendered":"Big bet poker with the bloggers"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>A word of advice: unless you <i>want<\/i> to give Maudie your money, don&#8217;t get tangled up in a hand with her. Can I say now after the fact that I meant it when I said it was a donation? Yeah, I don&#8217;t believe me either.<\/p>\n<p>Had another three hour session of $25 NL ring with the bloggers again tonight. In attendance were <a href=\"http:\/\/taopoker.blogspot.com\/\">Pauly<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.kebzweb.com\/\">Maudie<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/foolandhismoney.blogspot.com\/\">NegativeEV<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/uwannabet.blogspot.com\/\">UWannaBet<\/a>, and Pauly&#8217;s friend Hank. Never figured out who the guy in the 4 seat was, but he was there, too. After giving most of my stack to Maudie (respect her preflop raises!), I rebought and ended the night quadrupled.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;ve appreciated all the great trip reports to come out of last weekend&#8217;s Vegas trip, but man, I&#8217;ve really missed the nightly NL sessions. When you&#8217;re sitting at a table by yourself, it gets boring really quickly. In these NL sessions, half the time I&#8217;m paying attention to the hand I&#8217;m playing and the other half I&#8217;m paying attention to the chat. It&#8217;s also good to have a cheering squad when you win, and people to commiserate when you get sucked out by a <a href=\"http:\/\/www.barbneal.com\/wav\/ltunes\/Bugs\/Bugs34.wav\">maroon<\/a>.<br \/>\n<!--more--><br \/>\n<i>Too obvious?<\/i><\/p>\n<p>Tonight I had the distinct displeasure of being put on a hand three times by NegativeEV. Not that that&#8217;s a bad thing. It&#8217;s an eye-opener. He knows what hands I play and how I play them. I need to have a talk with that guy. This is a serious leak that needs to be patched, and who better to help me than a fellow blogger? For the most part in NL I play a pretty straightforward game, and I suppose this makes it obvious to an observant Joe whether I&#8217;ve got something to fear or not. <\/p>\n<p><i>Destroying the odds<\/i><\/p>\n<p>If I&#8217;ve got a hand that&#8217;s vulnerable to draws, I usually bet enough to destroy the pot odds. So here&#8217;s the question: am I leaving bets on the table by not taking on the risk of getting outdrawn? Because the goal in NL is to take everything in the other guy&#8217;s stack and\/or use him to double up. I do think, however, that this straightforward play buys me a lot of respect at the table, allowing me to take down pots with strong draws or second pair after I&#8217;ve established myself.<\/p>\n<p><i>Getting outdrawn<\/i><\/p>\n<p>Of course, in a 3-way pot, if opponent 1 calls my bet, opponent 2 with his good draw instantly has odds to call (well, he doesn&#8217;t, actually, but it becomes much more justifiable&#8211;missing the turn with these draws is a disaster in terms of odds since you won&#8217;t see the river for free). This leads to the following dilemma: Most times I bet the turn and take it down right there. But there are those memorable times where the person who made the mistake calling on the flop is suddenly ahead. I have a very tough time letting go of a hand that was ahead on the flop (which means, of course, that the caller actually had <i>great<\/i> implied odds for his draw&#8211;poker is such a mindfuck). Yet I&#8217;ve also made &#8220;good&#8221; laydowns to good players who figured they could get me off. Iggy has done this to me (you bastard), and a few people at Doyle&#8217;s Room have done this to me, much to my dismay. I think the British players I&#8217;ve run into there have bluffing as a standard tool in their repertoire, which makes for some pretty high variance games (I&#8217;ve never made 13 times my buy-in at Party, but I usually don&#8217;t lose my stack, either).<\/p>\n<p><i>A little help?<\/i><\/p>\n<p>So these are the situational weaknesses in my game: not making my hands as profitable as they can be, calling when I shouldn&#8217;t, and folding when I shouldn&#8217;t. And I have no idea what I can do to address them other than to play more hands and improve my subconscious feel for the game. If anyone out there has some good insights or tips, they&#8217;d be much appreciated.<\/p>\n<p><em>Addendum<\/em><\/p>\n<p>I just went back and read HDouble&#8217;s <a href=\"http:\/\/cardsspeak.servebeer.com\/archives\/how_to_beat_lowlimit_nolimit_a_beginners_guide.html\">&#8220;How to beat low-limit no-limit: a beginner&#8217;s guide&#8221;<\/a> and RDub&#8217;s follow-up <a href=\"http:\/\/cardsspeak.servebeer.com\/archives\/no_limit_part_two_rdub_manipulates_the_pot.html\">&#8220;No Limit Part Two: RDub manipulates the pot.&#8221;<\/a> Good stuff. Then I came across this:<\/p>\n<div class=\"blockquote\">The risk-averse player will lay down their top pair top kicker, but this is weak play. Depending how much is in the pot, I advise new players to lay this hand down to a big reraise. But decisions like that are the beauty of no-limit.\n<\/div>\n<p>The decision&#8217;s easy when you&#8217;ve got mismatched stacks. Either it doesn&#8217;t take a lot out of you, or you&#8217;re so far down already it doesn&#8217;t matter as much. Even if you&#8217;re evenly matched but on the low end of the scale, it&#8217;s not a terrible thing. But when it&#8217;s you and the other big stack at the table and he&#8217;s asking you to put the rest of your hard-earned winnings into the pot with his&#8230; I&#8217;ll tell you one thing: it&#8217;s a hell of a lot easier to put everything in the pot and dare him to call you than it is to call.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>A word of advice: unless you want to give Maudie your money, don&#8217;t get tangled up in a hand with her. Can I say now after the fact that I meant it when I said it was a donation? Yeah, I don&#8217;t believe me either. 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