{"id":424,"date":"2004-08-26T16:32:11","date_gmt":"2004-08-26T23:32:11","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.studioglyphic.com\/blog\/?p=424"},"modified":"-0001-11-30T00:00:00","modified_gmt":"-0001-11-30T07:00:00","slug":"pot-limit-adventures","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.studioglyphic.com\/blog\/2004\/08\/26\/pot-limit-adventures\/","title":{"rendered":"Pot limit adventures"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>From what I&#8217;d seen at the $25 NL tables and from what&#8217;d I&#8217;d heard from <a href=\"http:\/\/cardsspeak.servebeer.com\/\">HD<\/a>, I would have expected a little more tight playing at the $25 PL tables. I guess not:<\/p>\n<div class=\"blockquote\">Party Poker Pot-Limit Hold&#8217;em, $0.50 BB (10 handed) <a href='http:\/\/www.selachian.com\/tools\/bisonconverter\/hhconverter.cgi'>converter<\/a><\/p>\n<p><b>saw flop<\/b>|<b><font color='#C00000'>saw showdown<\/font><\/b><\/p>\n<p><b>BB ($14.59)<\/b><br \/><b>UTG ($7.85)<\/b><br \/>UTG+1 ($23.75)<br \/>Hero ($26.50)<br \/>MP1 ($23.65)<br \/><b>MP2 ($23)<\/b><br \/><b><font color='#C00000'>MP3 ($34.42)<\/font><\/b><br \/>CO ($13.05)<br \/><b><font color='#C00000'>Button ($48.65)<\/font><\/b><br \/><b>SB ($27.75)<\/b><\/p>\n<p><b>Preflop:<\/b> Hero is UTG+2 with Ac, 7h.    <br \/>UTG calls $0.50, UTG+1 folds, Hero folds, MP1 folds, MP2 calls $0.50, MP3 calls $0.50, CO folds, Button calls $0.50, SB completes, BB checks.<\/p>\n<p><b>Flop:<\/b> ($3) As, 8s, Tc <font color='blue'>(6 players)<\/font><br \/>SB checks, <font color='#CC3333'>BB bets $0.5<\/font>, UTG calls $0.50, <font color='#CC3333'>MP2 raises to $2<\/font>, MP3 calls $2, Button calls $2, SB folds, BB calls $1.50, UTG folds.<\/p>\n<p><b>Turn:<\/b> ($11.50) 7c <font color='blue'>(4 players)<\/font><br \/>BB checks, MP2 checks, <font color='#CC3333'>MP3 bets $2<\/font>, <font color='#CC3333'>Button raises to $16.95<\/font>, BB folds, MP2 folds, MP3 calls $14.95.<\/p>\n<p><b>River:<\/b> ($45.40) Qs <font color='blue'>(2 players)<\/font><br \/><font color='#CC3333'>MP3 bets $14.97 (All-In)<\/font>, Button calls $14.97.<\/p>\n<p><b>Final Pot:<\/b> $75.34<br \/><font color='green'>Main Pot: $75.34, between MP3 and Button.<\/font> > Pot won by MP3 ($75.34).<\/p>\n<p>MP3 shows Ks Ts (flush, ace high).  <br \/>Button shows 9s Js (flush, ace high).  <br \/>Outcome: MP3 wins $75.34.<\/div>\n<p>I know, I know, MP3 had implied odds, but at some point that starts to sound more like a rationalization than rational play.<\/p>\n<p>&#8212;<\/p>\n<p>Didn&#8217;t <a href=\"http:\/\/slicer.headsupclub.com:3455\/16\/Home\">Izmet<\/a> say not to slowplay a set? My ass was somewhat at risk with this little manouever:<\/p>\n<div class=\"blockquote\">Party Poker Pot-Limit Hold&#8217;em, $0.50 BB (9 handed) <a href='http:\/\/www.selachian.com\/tools\/bisonconverter\/hhconverter.cgi'>converter<\/a><\/p>\n<p><b>saw flop<\/b>|<b><font color='#C00000'>saw showdown<\/font><\/b><\/p>\n<p>MP3 ($11.09)<br \/><b>CO ($4.85)<\/b><br \/><b><font color='#C00000'>Button ($22.75)<\/font><\/b><br \/><b><font color='#C00000'>Hero ($25.50)<\/font><\/b><br \/><b>BB ($22.40)<\/b><br \/>UTG ($75.59)<br \/>UTG+1 ($13.05)<br \/>MP1 ($14.63)<br \/>MP2 ($26.25)<\/p>\n<p><b>Preflop:<\/b> Hero is SB with Qh, Qs.    <br \/>UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, <font color='#CC3333'>CO raises to $1.75<\/font>, Button calls $1.75, Hero calls $1.50, BB calls $1.25.<\/p>\n<p><b>Flop:<\/b> ($7) 6c, Qd, Js <font color='blue'>(4 players)<\/font><br \/>Hero checks, BB checks, CO checks, <font color='#CC3333'>Button bets $4<\/font>, Hero calls $4, BB folds, CO folds.<\/p>\n<p><b>Turn:<\/b> ($15) 3d <font color='blue'>(2 players)<\/font><br \/><font color='#CC3333'>Hero bets $5<\/font>, Button calls $5.<\/p>\n<p><b>River:<\/b> ($25) Jd <font color='blue'>(2 players)<\/font><br \/><font color='#CC3333'>Hero bets $12<\/font>, Button calls $12 (All-In).<\/p>\n<p><b>Final Pot:<\/b> $49<br \/><font color='green'>Main Pot: $49, between Button and Hero.<\/font> > Pot won by Hero ($49).<\/p>\n<p>Hero shows Qh Qs (full house, queens full of jacks).  <br \/>Button shows Kd Ad (flush, ace high).  <br \/>Outcome: Hero wins $49.  <\/div>\n<p>Okay, so I don&#8217;t think I actually did anything wrong. I had top set, the flop was rainbow, turn was a rag, and I took all his money in the end. But how much would it have sucked if the river had been a diamond, but not a board pair? Yeesh. Didn&#8217;t even see the flush. Not sure if I would have been as blind if I hadn&#8217;t made my boat.<\/p>\n<p>Anyway, I think I&#8217;ll go review some of the thoughts on &#8220;big bet poker with training wheels&#8221; over at <a href=\"http:\/\/cardsspeak.servebeer.com\/\">The Cards Speak<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><em>5:15 PM Update:<\/em> the same guy whose flush lost to my boat just lost another big pot. The card that made his nut flush on the river made someone else&#8217;s boat. In both cases, this guy was beat from the flop, but kept fishing for his hand, got it, and lost. There&#8217;s a lesson in there somewhere.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>From what I&#8217;d seen at the $25 NL tables and from what&#8217;d I&#8217;d heard from HD, I would have expected a little more tight playing at the $25 PL tables. 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